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The Buccaneers and Jameis Winston

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There are just 26 days left until the draft. Thank goodness. 

Another week in the books which featured the usual rumors and reports tying the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to Jameis Winston. With Florida State’s pro day a few days ago, the reports went into overdrive with the coverage.

Honestly, pro days aren’t much to be so hyped up about. Scouts attend them, but as they have said countless times, those scripted workouts don’t mean much. But seeing how the Buccaneers’ brass reacted to each thing Winston did, it’s pretty obvious they are giddy for the kid.

The team pulled out all the stops when an under-the-radar visit that quickly turned national story took place on March 3. Winston met with several members of the Tampa Bay organization — breakfast with head coach Lovie Smith in the morning, taking a tour of the team’s facility with general manager Jason Licht while meeting with him for hours, as well as meeting with wide receiver Vincent Jackson. TheBayCave.com learned this week from several around the league that a prominent voice within the team dined together with Winston the night of his visit. Sources say he informed them the team is all-in for Winston.

That’s not to say the team didn’t do exactly the same for Oregon’s Marcus Mariota when he was in town, but there was no confirmation on any of it either.

During Gruden’s quarterback camp, Bucs running back Bobby Rainey shared a photo this week (h/t JoeBucsFan.com) showing himself with Winston posing together for a picture which he said, “Would love to play with him.”

However, you still have your detractors. Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole reported Friday that no team (including the Buccaneers and the NFL) has reached out to the accuser’s (Erica Kinsman) legal team as part of their investigative process. Also threw in that sources have told him that a second accuser is ready to come forward.

Of course, certain blogs have jumped all over that report but news of the second accuser is not really news. That has been going on since 2013 and court documents have Kinsman’s separate legal counsels describing this second accuser differently as not calling her accusation rape in the initial claim to now saying that it was rape this past January.

And as for the team not reaching out Kinsman’s legal team, they don’t have to. Her side has been well publicized — no matter which version of the story you choose to read, it’s out there. There is no reason for any team to reach out to the victim in any case. (See Greg Hardy)

At the end of the day, the Buccaneers have done extensive research. Enough to feel comfortable with him and have players and coaches treat him to meals. Their players, coaches, and owners are on board.

That’s all that matters.

Photo courtesy of Buccaneers.com

 

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100 Comments on The Buccaneers and Jameis Winston

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 I'm not s fan of Wilson...it'll be interesting to see what happens when the start losing the defense and beast mode slows down

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC I think I like football but sometimes I'm not too sure. I like the Seahawks. Russell Wilson is cool

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC it's just more fun to me when you also admire the athletes

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 I'm from okc so I have no ties to this thing. I've been a bucs fan since 97

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC well I guess we look at sports differently.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 I'll take Peyton manning who settled his sexual assault case coming out of college over Tim Tebow

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 I care less as I sepeerate the two. I will never idolize a single pro athlete as they will never know me personally

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC I hope and think Mariota will do well. I'm from Eugene. We all love him here.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 again I'm not picking the bachelor I'm picking a qb. Like him or hate him jameis Winston will be the 1st pick

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC I like it when athletes are also heroes.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 nope...college grad working for a fortune 25 company thanks though.

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC again we agree. I'm getting nervous

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC well at least we agree on something

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 that doesn't mean jameis is a bad guy but he's just like 95% of pro athletes when it comes to dating someone.

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC do you work at a gas station cause I think u have brain damage

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 if I'm picking a guy to date a family member sure I'll take mariota but I'm not

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 mariota is joke of a qb...Tim tebow part 2 he sucks

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 i don't let my personal agenda cloud my perception as a football fan

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC I am glad Mariota isn't going to the bucs cause their fans seem like Neanderthals

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 I'm a bucs fan and yes he's by far the best qb in the drafy

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC it is not "very clear." You are hopeless. Good bye

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 how hard is it to comprehend no crime occurred..it's very clear. But keep spinning it to fit your agenda the JW is a rapist

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC can't you just admit he's probably not the best guy but he's a good football player?

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 the DA states that the counselor stated no crime occured

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 she wouldn't have to...she would just have to cooperate with the DA

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC death threats to Erica kinsman maybe? Can you imagine coming out against him?

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 when is she going to file a police report against jameis? It's been what 3 years?

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC I react more to his fans than to him. I kind of feel sorry for him but his fans overstate their case

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 the 2nd lady wouldn't testify in a criminal suit, or the student COC? Why not?

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 the state attorney interviews the counselor and she states the the 2nd women told her it was NOT rape

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC and I'm a woman so I don't think that's a man crush.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 where is the 2nd women? Again you are clueless

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC are u stupid or deaf? I didn't say he is a rapist. I said I don't know.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 yes because you are calling an innocent man a Rapist because he's a Better qb than your man crush mariota.

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC two women accuse him of assault. Doesn't that start to worry you even a little?

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC no it's you I disrespect.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 show me a fact that proves he's a predator?

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC none of these things tell u he didn't assault her. I would not want my daughter alone with him. He acts like a predator.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 haha exactly no substance just hate for an innocent black male

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 apparently You failed

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC you tell yourself whatever u need to to feel better

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 kinsman claimed to be viciously raped and held down against will...rape kit show no bruising or redness except on her knees

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 kinsman claimed attacker was 5ft 9...winston is 6ft 4 another lie she told police

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 kinsman claimed to be drugged...proven false as no drugs found in rape kit

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 kinsman claimed she was drunk...proven false .04BAC

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 kinsman claimed she was hit in the head and blacked out...proven false

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC go to law school

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 he's innocent

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 he's never been charged

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC I don't know if he is. That's the point. You can't say he's innocent.

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC the da said the police did a bad investigation and that what happened wasn't good.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 so give me a fact in this case that proves winston is a rapist as you call him?

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC yep I am and apparently you're not

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 I'm not but the DA reviewed the facts and didn't even charge winston. He's innocent but apparently you are a lawyer

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC not the point. The jury actually found he was not guilty, but do you believe that?

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 again OJ was charged and arrested. Jameis has never been charged or arrested in his life

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC are you a lawyer? Hell no you're not.

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC OJ was innocent too right?

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC I didn't say he was a rapist. I said he could be.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 and it is fact the he is innocent. Clowns like you don't understand what America is about...innocent until proven guilty

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 your calling him a rapist...the guy had never been charged or arrested. What's that make you?

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC u say it like its fact but you don't know that. That's what makes his fans so obnoxious.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 I deal with facts and not make assumptions based on personal feelings. Winston has done dumb college stuff but thats it.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 I'm not selecting a date for a family member I'm talking about a qb. I care less about his sexual fantasies

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC would u want your daughter to go home with him?

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC your mind is made up /closed.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 GilArciaTBC yea because he went to a college bar and took a girl home with him. This never happens

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC GilArciaTBC how many times have you been accused? Zero I bet. It's not hard to avoid.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 GilArciaTBC so if I state you raped me then your the same as winston...carry on

GilArciaTBC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 OKCPAC *ALLEGED* sexual assault

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC GilArciaTBC not typical. Sexual assault not typical, I hope

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 GilArciaTBC he's done typical college kid stuff.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 GilArciaTBC not an arrest...a citation.

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC GilArciaTBC if u think he hasn't screwed up you have very low expectations

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC GilArciaTBC he did 20 hours community service and paid a fine. What do you call that?

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 GilArciaTBC check the facts he has never been arrested

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC GilArciaTBC he was arrested for shoplifting crab legs, questioned for BB gun issues twice, questioned about stealing soda

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 GilArciaTBC considering he's never been arrested im confused why u think he's going to screw up. Winning = marketing

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

OKCPAC GilArciaTBC marketing is definitely an issue, especially if he screws up again.

OKCPAC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 GilArciaTBC kinsman had no problems rooting for JW his heisman season. Marketing not an issue

Ebonicallyurz said : Guest Report one year ago

GilArciaTBC another great article..

MarcusGarvey2 said : Guest Report one year ago

@GilArciaTBC Artemis97402 give me the quarterback

GilArciaTBC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 Trust me, I do & I've never denied that. But w/ him it comes down to if I want an "athlete" or a "quarterback." I say latter.

thebaycave said : Guest Report one year ago

keithintampa I'm not in sales nor do I care to be. The team knows Winston is very marketable. And it's not just women that will need convincing. Many men share the same thoughts and don't want the kid in the league at all. But as for your first concern, you are right. Any one can be a bust. But it's a risk teams have to take.

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

GilArciaTBC I don't know if you understand how fun Mariota is to root for. Explosive player, consistently great kid.

GilArciaTBC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 And saying Oregon, of course you will have the Mariota faithful from out of that state.

GilArciaTBC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 I can see why you think that. But several local outlets have put up polls and many have preferred Mariota over Winston.

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

GilArciaTBC I wonder if Florida is more accepting of his problems than other locations might be, say Oregon. Not criticizing, just curious.

GilArciaTBC said : Guest Report one year ago

seanlovegrove1 It's my Kermit and his tea.

GilArciaTBC said : Guest Report one year ago

jakemicheals3 Thanks man. I appreciate you reading.

GilArciaTBC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 The NFLPA did a market study and Winston came at No. 8 of 50 "rising stars" for the NFL. But yes, the Bucs do consider that.

TB_BUCFAN4LIFE said : Guest Report one year ago

skitzMcgurk ha

keithintampa said : Guest Report one year ago

All indications are that the Bucs are going to select Jameis Winston with the first round of the Draft.  If that's the case, then I will be on board, and genuinely hope that the Bucs have really done their homework and know what they are getting.  To me, it seems like a huge risk, especially with the needs of this team. "IF" there were any reasonable trade offers for multiple first round picks, I don't understand why the Bucs would not be considering those options!  Despite the off-field issues, Winston, or any quarterback selected in the first round and tagged "The Franchise Quarterback" is obviously a bigger risk than selecting any other position, even in the first round.  Both Winston and Mariota could be stellar quarterbacks for the next ten years.....Or they could be mediocre or flat out busts.  Tampa cannot afford another "Josh Freeman/Trent Dilfer/Vinnie Testeraverde"  that sets us back an additional five years! I also agree with http://www.twitter.com/#!/Artemis97402's comment.....The Bucs will never successfully sell Winston as the face of the franchise to women and a large minority of our fan base.

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

GilArciaTBC I would think marketability would be a consideration in choosing the face of a franchise.

GilArciaTBC said : Guest Report one year ago

Artemis97402 I respect your opinion. But it's not my job to market him. As for women, I've talked to several who are OK with Winston.

skitzMcgurk said : Guest Report one year ago

TB_BUCFAN4LIFE future disappointment in the making...

Peps5971 said : Guest Report one year ago

GilArciaTBC great article!! Men, women dont matter. If u take the blindfold off and look at facts there is no case for accuser.

jakemicheals3 said : Guest Report one year ago

GilArciaTBC well said you the man gil

seanlovegrove1 said : Guest Report one year ago

GilArciaTBC I approve of the new Avi!

Artemis97402 said : Guest Report one year ago

GilArciaTBC you're blinded to his problems by your desire to win. You will never market this man successfully to women.

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